Crina and Kirsten Get to Work

Meetings Don't Need to Suck

Yes, you spend a ton of time in meetings and yes, most of them are miserable! You are not alone! In fact a recent poll revealed that people just like you rank over 50% of their meetings as poor.
 
In this episode of Crina and Kirsten Get to Work, our dynamic duo brings their laser focus to meetings - with the hope that we can defy the data that 50% of meetings are not satisfying - and great more joy, meaning and ease.
 
Check out the data . . .
 
Dr Joseph Allen, professor of industrial and organizational psychology at University of Utah, has been studying meetings for 15 years.  He found that pre- Pandemic a manager spent 75% of her time in meeting activities (prep, meetings and follow-up).  This is 30 hours!!. During lock down that time increased by 48.5 minutes average per work day.  A manager now spends 85-90% of her time in meetings!  And remember during all of these meetings, we are “performing” of “surface acting.” You know the smiling, engaged, professional, energetic self.  And this is draining.
 
And here is the bad news, over 50% of participants rate the meetings as poor.  Why:
No agenda
No clear purpose
Attendees do not stay on the topic
Attendees are not equally participating
Lack of information needed for the meeting
 
And like everything in the workplace, race and gender bias play a significant role in meetings.  Women and people of color are given less time to talk, perceived as less capable and talked over more.  According to Adam Grant: “Political scientists find that when groups of five make democratic decisions, if only one member is a woman, she speaks 40 percent less than each of the men. Even if the group has a majority of three women, they each speak 36 percent less than each of the two men. Only in groups with four women do they each finally take up as much airtime as the one man.”  The Silent Sex: Gender, Deliberation, and Institutions eBook: Karpowitz, Christopher F., Mendelberg, Tali: Kindle Store.  One study by the Yale psychologist Victoria Bresoll found that when male executives spoke more often, they were perceived to be more competent, but when female executives spoke more often, they were given lower competence ratings. Who Takes the Floor and Why: Gender, Power, and Volubility in Organizations - Victoria L. Brescoll, 2011
 
Personality type is important to understanding meeting dynamics. In The Four Personality Types in Your Meetings - HR Daily Advisor, Cameron Herold divides us into 4 personality types and being mindful of their needs and how they contribute:
Dominant Personalities: extroverts, assertive, verbose, forceful, strong, type-A, and driven personalities. They will say what they mean, argue for it, and act forcefully. 
Expressive Personalities extroverts, plus they are animated, talk with their hands, and think out loud. They tend to get excitable and emotional, and they eagerly jump in to speak.
Analytical Personalities will literally think through their answers before speaking and tend to be introverts. Typically, they think through their answers for so long that Dominant and Expressive people feel they’re too slow
Amiable Personalities avoid conflict and tend to get along in a passive manner. Amiables will say things like, “Well, whatever,” or “Whatever you’d like,” or “That’s fine,” or “I’m okay too.” Truthfully, they mean it most of the time.
Tips for meetings that do not make you want to put a needle in your eye:
 
Here are some ideas for better meetings - and if you are a participant, it is fair to ask questions when you have questions about the meeting.
 
Define the purpose or goal of the meeting
Consider whether you really need a meeting - will an email accomplish the goal?
Is discussed or collaboration essential
Is there complex or sensitive information
Make sure everyone who needs to be at the meeting is at the meeting
Create and share an agenda with any information needed - make everyone at the meeting knows why they are there
Start the meeting in some mindful way - check in, intention setting etc. . . .
Infuses mindful practices into meetings
effective meeting structure
Focused attention
Deeper connection
Thoughtful responses
- Think about how you will deal with the over-talkers AHEAD OF TIME
- During the meeting
Use Procedural Communication ...we’re here for this purpose...can we get back to it?
For big decisions, consider presenting the issue or question and having folks write down their answers - allows folks who are analyzers to take some time, requires the talkers to be quiet and everyone gets to answer
- Run an inclusive meeting!
Call on folks for partition
- And don’t forget after the meeting
Send highlights/action items
Gather feedback and contributions
Evaluate and improve
Recover - a minimum of five minutes is needed to recover from good meetings and bad meetings much longer 
 
And here are some more good reads:
How to Deal with Difficult People in Meetings
Simple Tips for Happier, More Productive Meetings
Mindful Meetings Checklist
Perspective | Who won’t shut up in meetings? Men say it’s women. It’s not.
It’s Not Just You: In Online Meetings, Many Women Can’t Get a Word In

The Art and Science of Decision Making

Humans make thousands of decisions every single day...what to eat for breakfast; when to call mom; whether to wear pants during that zoom meeting. Some people are shockingly quick to make even the most complex decisions while others are virtually paralyzed by choice. Insane curiosity led Crina and Kirsten to learn about how decisions are made, how to make better decisions and how to help others get off the decision-making hamster wheel.
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In this episode of Crina and Kirsten Get to Work, our gorgeous gals - even though ya’ can’t see ‘em - talk about the thing that makes or breaks our lives in big and small ways - DECISIONS.  And because this topic is so important, Crina and Kirsten went to the best source for information - our listeners!!  
A listener focus group provided great input and fodder for thought on decisions - how they make them, what they are comfortable with, what decisions are hard, what decisions are easy and how do they handle consequences - from choosing between three suitors to the motto better done than perfect - these listeners were a rich source of information.
Crina and Kirsten chose the topic because they each see some of their clients struggle mightily with making decisions.  
The first part of the show is about the science of decision making.  Science has only recently begun to discover how we make decisions. A lot of the research is aimed at understanding what parts of the brain are involved in making decisions so they can understand why some people make consistently bad ones...adicts, for example; people with poor impulse control.
First, unconscious bias, or those powerful hidden, unconscious processes at work when we make decisions have been the subject of two Nobel Prize winners, which means it is pretty important.  If we do not bring these biases to the surface, we risk making decisions that we are not fully conscious of.  See This is how our brains make decisions by Adam Piore
Second, another fancy scientist, Daniel Kahneman, who won the Nobel Prize in 2002 in Economics for his widely referenced work in the area of human judgment determined there are two systems of decision making that compete with each other and sometimes overlap, acting as checks on each other.
System 1: nearly instantaneous impressions of people and situations;
For example, “that person looks suspicious.”  This system of thinking also drives some racism. 
Offers preferences based on patterns that we are unaware of i.e. unconscious bias
Tends to be fast, non-conscious and emotionally charged
Useful for high-pressure, high stress situations 
Can be harnessed and trained to speed up reaction times and save mental energy
These decisions are made using systemic, unconscious bias that constantly distort our judgement
 System 2: rational analysis and ability to handle complexity
 For example, “after doing a reference check and a background check, that person   
 seems safe.”
Analytical, deliberate and “rational”
Slow, controlled, rule-governed
Allows you to consider consequences before deciding
Slower and can breakdown under stress causing you to “choke”
Some people wrongly assume that system 1 is bad and system 2 is good, but that’s not necessarily the case. They are just different - and we go back and forth and sometimes use both systems to make a decision.
Third - who would have known (well, we do, frankly) that emotions are critical for decisions and people who have lost the ability to process emotions turn out to be horrible decision makers - so do not let anyone tell you that emotions have no place in decisions - in fact science tells us it is the opposite.  Decisions and Desire
Fourth, our hosts consider the impact of too many choices, too few choices and how abundance thinking affects decisions.  Abundance mindset: why it’s important and 8 ways to create it - Recent news science and psychology news about happiness - happiness.com
And here is what we learned from listeners about real life decisions outside of the science lab.
The more you know about yourself the better your decisions will be:
Consider developing a set of rules, principles and believes to guide your life and you decision
Make sure you feel comfortable in your mind, heart and body
How do you deal with fear, anxiety and risk aversion
If you are impulse driven - look before you jump
If you are analysis paralysis - just jump for crying out loud
What you believe about the world drives your decisions:
Abundance mindset tends to produce better and more satisfying results than the scarcity mindset
Permanence vs impermanence - are you comfortable with the truth that we live with impermanence
What you can (cannot) control
Do your life decisions begin to narrow as you age, or does your mind? I.e. why can’t you be a volunteer firefighter at 70
Be wary of self-limiting beliefs
Be comfortable with experimentation and trial and error - you can almost always make a different decision
There are some processes for making decisions that can help:
 Relax into your decision - calm down and breath
 Ignore criticism
Yes, make that list, but do not get stuck in analysis paralysis
 Limit your options: more options doesn’t make it easier
 As one listener said, “done is better than perfect.”
There are lots of opportunities to make decisions - and honing your ability to do so is a fundamental part of finding ease, meaning and job in your workplace and in your life.

It's About Time

Are you in control of time or does time control you? Your relationship to time can impact how you manage your day, how you organize your tasks and even how you feel about your life. 
 
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Today on Crina and Kirsten Get to Work, we get to learn a new word -  chronemics.  Who doesn’t want to learn a new and very cool word?  And now that you have waited with bated breath to know what it is - it is the study of time.  How do you think about time?  Are you in control of time? Does time control you? What is your relationship with time?  These are the big questions and considerations for this episode.
 
Up until a few thousand years or so ago - there was no clock time.  The sun rose and the sun set and it was game over.  Clock time allowed us to gain efficiency, organize work, maximize productivity, etc., but is that how all of us feel comfortable organizing our day?  Clock time was also a convenient way of compensating people in a newly industrialized society.
 
Most people’s work days are dictated by clock time: punch in, punch out...track your hours, take your breaks, etc.  Education also favors people who operate on clock time...standardized tests, school schedules, etc.
 
But here is the problem with clock time - even considering all of its productivity and efficiency - the “clock time” construct does not work for everyone.  Many people are more comfortable on “event” time, which is essentially, when the thing you are doing comes to its natural end - which may not coincide with both hands of a clock being pointed in any particular direction.
 
How do you know if you are a clock timer or an event timer?
Do you eat at 12 or when you are hungry?.  If you eat at noon, you are a clock timer and if you eat when you are hungry, you are an event timer.
Is your to do list also scheduled into your calendar or is your to do list driven by the “right” time to complete a task? If you are a “right” timer, you are an event timer.
 Is a meeting done for you when those clock hands point in a particular direction or when you feel like you have accomplished what needs to be accomplished?  
 
Clock time is pretty interchangeable - meaning we can move out meeting from 10 am to 2 pm, but if we are on event time, it may not work to move the exercise session because you have to do exercise first so you can shower next and then shop.  Who wants to shop dirty and stinky from working out?  (well, probably Kirsten, but don’t tell anyone).  The point is there is a flow to event time - things happen in sequence.  Clock time tends to be more like legos - interchangeable.
 
Why does this matter?  Event time allows you to be in the moment and aware of your surroundings.  Clock time allows you to be efficient and productive, but the locus of control is the clock.  Most of us are comfortable with event time and clock time, although Crina is primarily a clock time and Kirsten prefers event time.  And they can still be friends!!!
 
Anne-Laure Sellier, a fancy professor from France currently a Visiting Professor at NYU, conducted an interesting experiment where she put a clock in a room where people were doing yoga.  She watched them and talked with them after the class.  Then she covered up the clock for the next class and she watched them and talked to them.  Here is what she discovered.  Students were more engaged in the class where the clock was covered up.  Students also took and felt more agency over their performance when there was no clock.  Students with a clock in the room tended to attribute their performance to the instructor and gave up more easily.
 
Clock time is great for standardized tasks and efficiency, event time is good to fully experience your surroundings and for creativity.  People on event time feel more control over their lives versus people on event time who believe the hands on the clock do not control their lives as much.
 
How does this translate into work?  First, if you understand your relationship to time, you will probably understand why certain things work for you and others do not.  Understanding how you best experience time will allow you to better shift between the two and better structure your work environment to accomplish what you need to accomplish.  And after giving you insight into your own work habits and productivity and satisfaction, it will give you that same insight into your workers’ habits and productivity and satisfaction.
 
And, as always, more good information
Clock Time Event Time – Love Your Work, Episode 235
If scheduling causes you conflict, maybe you're on "event time"
What how you view time says about you | Anne-Laure Sellier | TEDxHECParis

Women's Work Part 2: The Big Fat Lie

COVID 19 has exposed the very real fact that working women depend on outside support in order to do their jobs-support that has virtually disappeared during the pandemic. The loss of childcare, school and other services has forced so very many of us to leave the workforce or at the very least, stretch ourselves WAY too thin.  Join us as we explore how to harness the power of women to make the systemic changes necessary to support all working women, during COVID and beyond.
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In this episode of Crina and Kirsten Get Work, our dynamic duo discuss what Covid has magnified about women and work.  In short, Covid has taken its toll in so many ways - including women and their work.
 
In Part I of Women’s Work and Covid the focus was that “COVID-19 is hard on women because the U.S. economy is hard on women, and this virus excels at taking existing tensions and ratcheting them up.” Why has COVID-19 been especially harmful for working women?   
 
This is because women hold more low-wage and face to face jobs and these types of jobs were especially hit with layoffs.  Losses in child care and school hours as a result of the pandemic have and will likely lead to a significant decline in women’s total wages and an increase in women leaving the workforce.
 
And this whole “dealio” threatens the progress women have made in the last years.
 
COVID has created the perfect storm and exposed what already existed: we “let” women be successful, but only if they can simultaneously care for the children, the elderly, the husbands, the community, etc.  If you can add a shift in your day from 8pm to 3 am to get your work done, plan the team potluck or whatever, you are golden.  We all know this is unsustainable and based on the big fat lie that certain work such as caring for children, families and households is primarily the purview of women.  The paradigm is false.
 
There are systemic issues that create and exacerbate the work women have been shouldering, all exacerbated by COVID.  Those systemic issues include insufficient childcare, no care when children are ill, a lack of support for the elderly, lack of predictable schedules, and, oh yes, minimum wage jobs held by single women with children who could not hope to sustain their life and the life of their children on minimum wage.   None of these issues are women’s issues, they are family issues and we need to start thinking about them as such.
 
The solution is to change things on a federal level.  If we change things with individual employers, individual cities or states, we risk advancing some and leaving others behind.  We need a solution for everyone.  The Women’s National Law Center is an excellent place to explore solutions on the federal level.  Listeners should consider taking action to support these federal solutions on issues such as:.
Childcare
Improving the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit Would Help Working Families with the High Cost of Child Care | NWLC
Regulating Schedules
National Women's Law Center Take Action: Tell Congress to Support Fair Work Schedules (nwlc.org) - Seattle has this restriction on the ability to change schedules without notice
And don’t forget paid time off,and raising the minimum wage. And don’t forget, the best thing we can do is to support, raise up and sponsor other women - as individuals and collectively.

Women's Work Part 1: Thanks A Lot, COVID!

Women, work and COVID 19 adds up to a whole lot of frustration, lost wages and lost jobs. It has also exacerbated systemic issues that women have been dealing with for a very long time, most notably: The fact that women, many of whom work for minimum wage and/or in service jobs, depend on childcare, school and other social programs in order to do their jobs.
SHOW NOTESOn this episode of Crina and Kirsten Get to Work, our hosts embark on a two part series about women and Covid-19 - the effect of the pandemic on women at work.  In part one, our data-driven duo delve into the data to figure out what is happening to women at work in the pandemic.
 
Crina revisits the basics of what we know about women at work.  We make up over half of the US labor force, we make less money than men and we occupy fewer high-level and C-suite positions.  We women typically have more care-taking obligations and household duties than men.  The Department of Labor tells us that the top 10 jobs that women occupy are: teacher, nurse, home health aid, secretary, cashier, customer service rep, retail sales,waitress, supervisor of retail sales, managers, which require a knowledge of the management and operations of an organization, rather than a scientific, technical, or administrative specialty.  100 Years of Working Women.  25% of us have a child at home under 14.  And according to the State of Women at Work survey by McKinsey and Lean In, women are doing more of all of this during the pandemic.
 
And the systems that support women in their work - childcare and schools - are closed, providing less services - and are basically inadequate - and this is against the backdrop that no state in our great Union offers what is considered affordable childcare, which is defined as 7% of your income. https://www.brookings.edu/essay/why-has-covid-19-been-especially-harmful-for-working-women/ 
 
As you would expect - all of this leaves women feeling stressed and anxious.  Women are worrying about losing a job, the pandemic, cold-care, home-schooling, kids returning home, caregiving, racial inequity, economy - what is not stressful?
 
Many women have jobs that are service focused and are not conducive to remote work - which means they are dealing with masks, fear of illness for them and their families, customers and co-workers who may have their own perspective about Covid safety - in other words - hard work has become harder.  
 
Women who are working remotely say that are more productive, but it comes at a cost - more meetings, more hours working, less distinction between work and homeRemote Work Statistics: Navigating the New Normal
 
The fact is that work is not working for many women.  Weber Shandwick reports that 66% of their respondents in a September survey report planning to switch jobs, move to another town or cut their work to part-time. One in four are considering this due to COVID.
 
Four times as many women as men dropped out of the labor force in September 2020, roughly 865,000 women compared with 216,000 men. How the Coronavirus Crisis Threatens to Set Back Women’s Careers
 
Women leaving the labor force and reducing work hours to assume caretaking responsibilities amounts to $64.5 billion per year in lost wages and economic activity.  How COVID-19 Sent Women's Workforce Progress Back
 
As stated by the Brooks Institute “Covid is hard on women because the U.S. economy is hard on women, and this virus excels at taking existing tensions and ratcheting them up.” Why has COVID-19 been especially harmful for working women?
 
We look at the systems that support women at work as social welfare systems, childcare, school, elder care, health care, but in fact they are economic development programs.  Our government and society needs to develop the support structures necessary to support an important, integral and valuable aspect of our economy - women at work.  Stay tuned for the next episode when our hosts discuss what next.

What are your intentions?

Each one of us will be someone different at the end of this year and we can influence what we become - healthier, more peaceful, kinder, richer or whatever - or not.   As Abraham Lincoln said, “the best way to predict the future is to create it.”
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On this 50th episode of Crina and Kirsten Get to Work, our hosts talk about intention in the workplace.  And if you can wait for Kirsten to tell her story about floating in a sensory deprivation tank, you can hear all about intention and how it helps us in accomplishing goals, actualizing resolutions and just getting done what we want to get done in the way we want to get it done and how we want to feel while we are doing it.  
 
As we start the New Year, many of us set goals, make resolutions, create vision boards, choose words to define our year and engage in all kinds of other actions and activities to help us create the year we want. 
 
What is intention?  It’s worth consideration.  Intention is something we want and plan to do - the process we go through until we accomplish what we want to accomplish.  And of course our hosts like to get all intellectual every once in a while (to offset the smack talk), intent originates from the Latin word “intentus” which means an extending, attentive to, and strained.  
 
Now that we know what intention is - why do we care so much? Each of us will be someone else at the end of 2021 - and who we end up being depends largely on our intentions.  With intention, we are more likely to achieve our goals, create more of what we want, be more present and mindful and have more fun.
 
How do we bring intention to our lives?  Mindfulness and awareness are good starts, but it is something more than this and requires the energy of effort, extending, moving in the direction of the end result.  Here are some suggestions - and intentions should be positive, otherwise we risk sabotaging ourselves:
 
take intention breaks - stop and set your intention
just any moment of the day
when you want through a door, what is your intention in the room
in the shower as you start your day
ritualize your intention setting, i.e. every Sunday, on your walk etc.
planning is a form of intention 
journaling
list making
mediation
And two fun reads:
Why setting intentions is the way to achieve your goals | by Coralie SAWRUK | Medium
3 Tips to Create an Intentional Workplace - Fierce (fierceinc.com)

Holidazed and Confused

December is either a magical, mystical month or humans are so tired of the cold and dark that we have evented no less than 40 sacred or secular celebrations – all packed into the month of December – at least according to Wikipedia!
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Happy Holidays – well, at least Holidays with more ease, meaning and joy.  On this episode of Crina and Kirsten Get to Work, our hosts tackle the holidays at work.
How do you feel about the holidays – are you a scrooge and don’t enjoy the holidays or just do not want to participate?  Are you a Tiny Tim and do it out of guilt?  Or are you a Cindy Lou Who from Whoville – just spilling over with holiday joy?  As listeners know, we think whoever you are is just spectacular – so embrace it, come to terms with it and make the holidays into a time that works for you.
We can really step in the metaphorical “it” during the holidays – as evidenced by Crina’s tale of coming into the office early one morning to decorate her office (and those of others) with trappings of the Christmas spirit.  Unfortunately, her ardor (and good intentions) did not have the desired effect as not all of her co-workers shared her enthusiasm and wanted to live in a Christmas wonderland for the next several weeks.
Holidays are complicated - some of us are depressed and some are excited and some struggle with big issues from childhood that affect our holidays.  There are good reasons that some of the best episodes of The Office are about the holidays. People can be really messed up.
Our hosts tackle gifts, parties, activities and collective days off – at work – during the holidays,
Gifts present an interesting power dynamic.  Some people feel that they should not give their bosses a gift and that gifts flow down.  And if that is your belief – that is just fine.  Alternatively, if you are a gift giver and you find joy in that, do it – up the ladder, down the ladder, and across the ladder (and that should be a thing – across the ladder).  Kirsten shares her stories of co-workers who give really fun, uplifting gifts – and her admission that she knows people at her workplace do not participate in gift giving, but she does not know who they are – and that is just fine.  You will hear that a lot in this episode – what works for you is JUST FINE!  Whatever you do - do not spend a lot of money!!
Most employees dread parties and with good reason.  Some of us feel uncomfortable interacting with our co-workers in an entirely different way, some people misbehave at parties and some people just do not like a party.  Parties can be a great time for team - building and setting office culture - particularly inclusion of all employees.  These kinds of parties tend to have fun activities – and keep us out of the punch bowl.
Many workplaces choose to engage in a giving activity – adopting a family or a child for Christmas, working at the foodbank, delivering meals – these are all wonderful ways for co-workers to connect over something bigger than themselves. 
And then we have many folks’ favorite part – the collective days off where we can all stop and  take a deep breath.  We know these breaks are rejuvenating and necessary – and there is something really special when the whole workplace does it! 
Whoever you are, whatever you enjoy – make the holidays your own.  If you can make agreements with people about what the holidays look like in a way that works to give you more of what you want during the holidays – wonderful.  If not, remember you can make agreements with the best person to make agreements with – yourself.  Okay listeners – get out there and make some more ease, meaning and joy! 
 
And a good read:
Preparing for the Holidays During COVID-19
https://vurbl.com/station/PUoY7t7WMK/

Beautiful, Powerful, Angry Women

There is power in anger. There is purpose in anger. Anger is that beautiful, much-maligned and useful emotion that women, in particular, are discouraged and punished for expressing. 
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In this episode of Crina and Kirsten Get to Work our hosts talk about anger – that much maligned and useful emotion that women, in particular, are discouraged from and punished for expressing.  There is power in anger and there is purpose in anger – even at work.  And it’s time women understood and used their anger in the workplace – for real!  Crina recalls experiences of white-hot anger in her personal life, and little of that in her professional life.  Kirsten admits that she was an early adopter of anger and has honed her expression of it over the years into something that she believes makes her more effective and authentic.
Anger at work comes with a strict warning for its use – nothing physical and no yelling!! And if you know you are out of control, we recommend against its use. 
Now to the juicy topic of anger.
Soroya Chemaly is one of the most thoughtful people on the topic of women’s anger.  She believes women are told that anger is an emotion better left unvoiced.  “It is reserved as the moral property of boys and men” says Chemaly.  Chemaly has some other good observations about anger.  Women who are angry are called such things as spoiled, high maintenance, shrill/ugly.  And when we add race and ethnicity to the mix, we get labels like spicy Latina, crazy white women, sad Asian, angry Black woman.  Chemaly notes that instead of getting angry, women tend to cry or be sad or disappointed, use minimizing language and the like.  Chemaly believes these distortions of anger actually negatively affect women’s physical and mental health.  Women are twice as likely as men to have heart problems, anxiety, eating disorders and self-harming behaviors.
Women have a lot to be angry about.  According to a New Yorker article, American women between the ages of eighteen and forty-four are nearly twice as likely as men to:
Report feeling exhausted every day; 
Make less money than their male colleagues; 
of the thirty highest-paying job categories, twenty-six are dominated by men, while women dominate twenty-three of the thirty lowest-paying categories; 
female patients are treated for pain less often than male patients who present with the same symptoms; 
one in four women lives with domestic violence; 
one in five women has been sexually assaulted; 
and two-thirds of women have experienced street harassment, roughly half of them before they turned seventeen. 
The Perils and Possibilities of Anger
Against this backdrop – our hosts dive into anger at work.  Of course, men are generally rewarded for their anger, while women are generally punished.  The issue seems to be that we are comfortable with and assume a purpose in men’s anger, but because we do not feel comfortable with women’s anger, we often impute an intention that is negative – to match our discomfort with the anger.  However, when women explain their anger, it is more likely to advance status in the workplace. (Can Angry Women Get Ahead?).  Explaining and additional information tend to undermine the biases that people form – so explaining your anger substitutes for the negative assumptions people tend to make about women’s anger.
Anger can be very useful at work.  People who are able to process their anger and make meaning from it are more creative, more optimistic, create more intimacy and be better problem solvers – and these are all great things for and that we want more of in the workplace. (Can Angry Women Get Ahead?)
Our hosts end the episode by examining what smart and thoughtful women have said about anger.
"I felt like a hand was at my throat when I first started writing. That if I was going to be a proper writer, I’d better be as polite as possible and as calm as possible and as un-angry as possible — and recently I’ve been thinking, you know, fuck that, basically." Zadie Smith
"One of the things I wanted was for her [a Netflix tv character she was writing] to be a hothead because it is so unacceptable in society to be an angry Asian woman. You’re supposed to be demure and agreeable. I always had so much impatience and ambition — these things that if you had them, you were supposed to have them secretly." Mindy Kaling
"Every woman has a well-stocked arsenal of anger potentially useful against those oppressions, personal and institutional, which brought that anger into being. Focused with precision it can become a powerful source of energy serving progress and change." Audre Lorde
"You should be angry. You must not be bitter. Bitterness is like cancer. It eats upon the host. It doesn’t do anything to the object of its displeasure. So use that anger. You write it. You paint it. You dance it. You march it. You vote it. You do everything about it. You talk it. Never stop talking it." Maya Angelou
 
More Good Stuff on Anger
Can an Angry Woman Get Ahead?: Status Conferral, Gender, and Expression of Emotion in the Workplace
 I Used to Insist I Didn’t Get Angry. Not Anymore. (Published 2018)
The Perils and Possibilities of Anger
Soraya Chemaly: The power of women's anger | TED Talk
Can an Angry Woman Get Ahead?: Status Conferral, Gender, and Expression of Emotion in the Workplace
The Perils and Possibilities of Anger